Posted by: 愛撫 | 10/30/09

KOTOKO best-of gets a tracklisting, Geneon laughs at KOTOKO fans

1. Re-sublimity
2. Chi ni Kaeru ~on the Earth~ (地に還る)
3. Face of Fact RESOLUTION ver.
4. being
5. Chercher (シャルシェ)
6. Kirei na Senritsu (きれいな旋律)
7. Hayate no Gotoku! (ハヤテのごとく!)
8. Shichitenhakki☆Shijoushugi! (七転八起☆至上主義!)
9. BLAZE
10. Special Life!
11. daily-daily Dream

And the DVD will have 5 songs from KOTOKO’s recent live show at SHIBUYA-AX, apparently. Comments thread preemptively named “angry disappointed fan rage zone”. Make sure it lives up to its name, guys, because this tracklisting blows. Where’s my goddamn Oboetete ii yo?


Responses

  1. Uh. Oboetete Ii yo has no anime tie-up.

    But yeah, the list is disappointing just because agony isn’t in it.

    • Oh, sorry, I meant DuDiDuWa. Same single.

  2. Sociometry isn’t there… DOOM !!!

  3. MGC was something bad but this is worst.

    Absolutely FAIL ¬¬…

  4. Aibu, every song from this “best-of” had good anime asociated to them(good meaning..well recived by anime fans) and also there is a “time scale” related to the position of the songs on the album. You say you don’t like the track list…well..Oboetete ii yo is from August 2004, a few months before Re-sublimity and had no anime. With the high number of songs made by KOTOKO…you just can’t make the perfect “Best Of” for everybody. Why you can’t admit and say that you can have 12 – 13 “best of” albums like this from KOTOKO and still have songs left…why you are obessive in trying to make a bullshit out of every new KOTOKO relase? You see….she will still go on doing het thing…plp will still buy… What you want to say…, that we are so stupid cuz’ we buy the new CD’s? Everything..you say…worst than Mami Kawada…, everything…Mami made better or KOTOKO copyed from her…i understand you have your personal opinion, but you use words like “Geneon laughs at KOTOKO fans”….you replace your voice with that of all of other fans voices…it’s not correct…. I want to remind you that you can’t manipulate all fan’s opinions by these angry texts like you tryed with your “Epsilon no Fune” review.

    I also want to specify that i’m in no way aggressive in my comments, just indignated.

    • “Everything..you say…worst than Mami Kawada…, everything…Mami made better or KOTOKO copyed from her…i understand you have your personal opinion, but you use words like “Geneon laughs at KOTOKO fans”….you replace your voice with that of all of other fans voices…it’s not correct….”

      too bad that most of us agreed with Aibu’s opinion this time, Maiku. Gotta say, Geneon FORGOT some of KOTOKO’s great anime songs, like Agony, Suppuration -core- and Sociometry. And actually, instead of releasing her Anime Tie-up best album, why don’t they just release her REAL best album?

      “I want to remind you that you can’t manipulate all fan’s opinions by these angry texts like you tryed with your “Epsilon no Fune” review.”

      did he say anything about disliking Epsilon no Fune album? He didn’t, dude. Try read it CAREFULLY.

    • So you’re meaning to say that you’re perfectly alright with Geneon releasing a compilation album that includes absolutely nothing that wasn’t on her previous Geneon singles (none of which are, to my knowledge, rare or out-of-print or anything) and doesn’t even include all of her anime tracks from said singles even though they all could fit on the album? It’s not about making “the perfect best-of for everybody”, it’s about not making an 11-track album when they could fill it up easily.

      Why I’m saying Geneon is laughing at KOTOKO fans is because KOTOKO fans, like you, deserve better than this. The skimpy 11-song tracklisting is an insult to fans expecting value for their money, and the lack of any new content laughs at all the loyal fans who bought the singles and were expecting any sort of new content on the album to go along with the (admittedly appealing) bonus DVD.

      “What you want to say…, that we are so stupid cuz’ we buy the new CD’s?”

      Well, no, since Epsilon no Fune was pretty good. But if you buy this new one and own most or all of the singles collected on it, then, yes. You are stupid. I really fail to notice where all my supposed negativity about Epsilon came from, though, last I checked I actually liked the album.

      • well….this is a reply to aibu as well as yuki.

        gonna take my time here…ehm.. so lets see…

        “too bad that most of us agreed with Aibu’s opinion this time, Maiku. Gotta say, Geneon FORGOT some of KOTOKO’s great anime songs, like Agony, Suppuration -core- and Sociometry(me too). And actually, instead of releasing her Anime Tie-up best album, why don’t they just release her REAL best album?”

        first of all i hate that Kotoko is afiliated to geneon…really! it’s just a loss of potential from her…i’m dreaming of Avex Trax here(i saw wath they did out of Ai Otsuka)…dreams… About the songs forgoted, there should be 5 CD’s like that one to fill just the best of them…there is no practicly enough place, thow..i wonder why they put just 11 songs and not atleast 13. Here on this blog are just maximum 10 – 15 plp that post in favour of Aibu and you, every time i post a clip in YT…i get tens of comments in favour of KOTOKO…also some against…, by now they are used to me kicking their ass…so maybe they keep away?

        yuki’s “did he(aibu) say anything about disliking Epsilon no Fune album? He didn’t, dude. Try read it CAREFULLY.”
        and
        aibu’s “Well, no, since Epsilon no Fune was pretty good. But if you buy this new one and own most or all of the singles collected on it, then, yes. You are stupid. I really fail to notice where all my supposed negativity about Epsilon came from, though, last I checked I actually liked the album.”

        I’m not stupid, singles are for Hit-song CD’s of an artist also for the clip that we get in LIMITED version and it’s supposed to endorse with publiity and money, the artist for the further album. Aibu man…i remember your “U make Ai dream” review and Daily daily…the covers best and worst…the Epsilon previews comments, now the album…everything new coming from her was suppose to be bad..thats the word. Mostly bc u personaly mey not liked all her work(it’s ok, i’m cool with that), meanie texts like “As of late, the once-great(wtf, is she dead???) KOTOKO has been known more for consistently failing to live up to expectations”…my friend..she is singing anime songs…thats the thing…she does cute shugar songs like daily daily bc thats what she is supposed to do…for an anime or freaky h-game, she can’t make a gansta rap…cuz’…it’s not the same domain…aldo i’m shure she would rap good as well…i remember her flow from princess bride…”sick spitting” i would say… like Biggie, but in anime way thow… and she is greater than 5 years ago, thats manipulating from you…it’s ovious that she has more fans than she had 2 years ago, 5 or 10…way much more actually(way much more than Mami…yuki read it CAREFULLY and remember the 3 month’s FC tour, should i continue?). Also “mediocre-at-best releases like this year’s unfortunate daily-daily Dream”..again as i sed…everyhing she is doing…bad…howcome you weren’t so detaliated about Mamis latest single…which is mediocre for wath it is supposed to be, how you call it…a filling track? she is singing just to pass the time maybe, boring. “(Epsilon no fune)it’s worth it just to hear KOTOKO try again”…”previously-execrable B-side scene not suck” so this is positive text from aibu, yuki?…thats like a spit in the ear to me. “KOTOKO’s English pronunciation is horrid” baby…it’s called engrish, and she sings like that with clear will..thow her english is null. And finaly, to not copy-paste all Aibu’s post.. “HELLION (a retread of Iuchi’s past successes seduce and Under Superstition that fails to live up to either” here again you bring Mami into the spotlights…she better than KOTOKO….How can you compare Hellion to Seduce?!?

        And still….there are other guys that think like me and speak much better than me…such as:
        Brandon “I listen to KOTOKO day in-day-out xD still can’t get enough of her voice…
        i like all songs on this album so it really doesn’t matter what anybody says…maybe that duet was unnecessary , but its ok…since its has been a while since a good album like this came out….

        personally i would buy any KOTOKO album even if it came as a blank disk….church(and thats my final opinion, verry well you sed brandon!)”

        The End!

      • Maiku, I’m going to say this once, don’t make me say it again.

        People like you are the worst fans KOTOKO could ever have.

        I love KOTOKO, the music she’s made has taken me places that no singer had before or has since, not even any of the other I’ve girls. I know she is capable of brilliance, and she achieves that whenever she tries, but on singles like daily-daily Dream all I hear is someone going through the motions without passion, barely recognizable as the KOTOKO I know and love. Why I’m so harsh on her is because I know she can do so much better, and it’s painful to hear talent being squandered through artless messes like BLAZE.

        You, on the other hand, your rose-tinted glasses paint her every breath as a new musical revelation, which not only devalues her true achievements (like the recent blossomdays or Shichitenhakki) but also lets her get away with sleepwalking through garbage like Kirei na Senritsu because “everything she does is good”. By being uncritical you only contribute to the stagnation of the artist you love, which is why I feel I’m justified in saying that people like me are better at being KOTOKO fans than people like you.

        Of course, I know my words are going to fall on deaf ears. You’ve never shown any capacity for reason in your comments on this blog, and you’ll probably just read this as yet another example of why I am The Devil Personified, but I figure I’d try and explain my perspective nevertheless. In the meantime, feel free to listen to daily-daily Dream like it isn’t a worthless retread of a single that wasn’t any good to begin with; maybe if you think it hard enough it might become true.

      • >were expecting any sort of new content on the album to go along with the (admittedly appealing) bonus DVD.

        As if they wouldn’t grab the chance to release a fully fledged DVD release of the KOTOKO LIVE HOUSE TOUR 2009 recording later on…

        See, it’s half-ass releases like that whereat my theory of Geneon being the devil’s advocate shows (not as if that wouldn’t be clear past their 10th anniversay oh-so-totally-uber-limited Departed to the future CD box rip-off which now is sold and dropped below half the original retail price on jp second hand market…). Still I’m surprised they didn’t include any “album original song” which they could later on release as stand-alone Single (my thinking there would qualify me to join Geneon’s marketing department, nee?).
        And on somewhat totally unrelated sidenote to finish my rant on Geneon I’m moreso ever than before worried about fripSide gone from Visual Art’s to Geneon shelter…

      • “Here on this blog are just maximum 10 – 15 plp that post in favour of Aibu and you, every time i post a clip in YT…i get tens of comments in favour of KOTOKO…also some against…, by now they are used to me kicking their ass…so maybe they keep away?”

        I love how you demote the readership of this blog into lackies of Aibu. If you haven’t noticed, many of us share our OWN opinions. It’s called free will and freedom of choice. If you actually paid attention to the comments on this blog, you would see how often we disagree with Aibu (go look up the review for PSI-Missing if you don’t believe me). We don’t just side with him for everything he says like mindless drones. To accuse us of that is basically insulting every reader of this blog.

        Also, since when did Youtube comments become a valid argument for who does and doesn’t like KOTOKO? The fact that most KOTOKO videos on youtube get leftwards of 100000 views with <50 comments hardly makes this a general consensus among listeners. Besides, do you honestly think that Youtube comments should be taken seriously?

        You also claim they are used to you "kicking their ass". Please elaborate.

        "i’m shure she would rap good as well…i remember her flow from princess bride…”sick spitting” i would say… like Biggie, but in anime way thow… and she is greater than 5 years ago"

        Blossomdays. End of story.

      • (btw, long ago, many I’ve Sound youtube videos reached 500000 views, some even passed 1 million, before youtube went crazy with their deleting spree)

  5. Aibu, you pretty much summed up what I think about this release. (I only got two of KOTOKO’s singles, along with the four albums) I don’t like the idea of this album either..

    • I don’t like the idea of this album, now that I have seen the tracklist (and the whole DVD content), I should of said. Sorry.

  6. This time i have to agree with the general opinion i mean no AGONY??!! or Suppuration-core-??… but they put Daily Daily dream on this? ewww no thanks.
    Geneon should just release a new MELL album already instead of trying to steal KOTOKO’S fans money with this shiteous releases.

  7. Aibu & Yuki, I have much respect for you guys for being able to deal with some of your… a little bit more than unaware commenters.

    But yeah, this best album is just horrible. It’s just a singles collection and Geneon are trying to print money off I’ve. :/ At least Master Groove Circle actually has new material!

  8. “first of all i hate that Kotoko is afiliated to geneon…really! it’s just a loss of potential from her…i’m dreaming of Avex Trax here(i saw wath they did out of Ai Otsuka)…dreams… About the songs forgoted, there should be 5 CD’s like that one to fill just the best of them…there is no practicly enough place, thow..i wonder why they put just 11 songs and not atleast 13. Here on this blog are just maximum 10 – 15 plp that post in favour of Aibu and you, every time i post a clip in YT…i get tens of comments in favour of KOTOKO…also some against…, by now they are used to me kicking their ass…so maybe they keep away?”

    You are out of your mind if you think that Kotoko would be better off on Avex Trax! Avex Trax’s artists do better because Avex has enough money to promote their artists constantly. In reality, if Kotoko were on Avex Trax she would get the same amount of promotion that BeForU got, which was very little. They promoted most of their work on their website and on their own personal blogs. Avex is all about the looks too and sorry, but Kotoko is NOT the kind of look they want. They want top model looks. Kotoko is your average Joe, so they’re not going to promote her too much. Your Avex Trax dreams need a little more thought.

    • Ok, aibu i knew what you think about me…it’s ok i’m cool with that. Same, i’ve talked with 15-20 real japanese guys thanks to YT, KOTOKO(or eny other I’ve Diva), doesn’t get in radio play or TV. In japan they have the stange way to promote the artists by having the radio station or TV channel paid by the record company to play the artist. If there isn’t no money … the artist can be the best but not get noticed. Avex or enyother of the big record companyes would have more money to invest in KOTOKO. So far…, she did it more by her own.., internet guys like me, helped her to raise into wath she is today.

      • No, the buyers of eroge and their soundtracks have gotten her where she is. Let’s not forget where Kotoko started, a young woman from Sapporo that got lucky in an audition. The TRUE I’ve fans know what I mean.

  9. Not only did she get lucky in an audition, but she had to be introduced by her teacher, Eiko Shimamiya. So really, she wouldn’t be where she was if it wasn’t for Eiko, not you.

    • “Let’s not forget where Kotoko started, a young woman from Sapporo that got lucky in an audition. The TRUE I’ve fans know what I mean.”

      and soon KOTOKO placed I’ve Sound on the World Map, same as I’ve placed her in the music industry, i mean…she gave beack more than she recived, isn’t it so? Than it’s ok, she did her job well.

  10. This should have been a 2-CD best-of album, because you can only put so many good tracks on an 11-track CD. Like the others here, I’d really like Suppuration -core- and Agony here, but I also love songs like Shooting Star and LOVE A RIDDLE to be included.

    The DVD content somehow dosen’t appeal to me, so it’s better to skip this one. A better one would be a compilation of her PVs for her anime themes :D

  11. same , you understand verry well wath i want to say….if more and more fans wouldn’t had bought her records….she would’eve been out of I’ve by now just as Aki did. I don’t talk only about promotion…think what producers she can get there…I’m not against Eiko or eny other I’ve Diva or even I’ve Sound, but Geneon??. Pls chill and don’t only search for smarty things to say, just to be against me…however…you can do it as much as u like it.

    • Dude, no one knows why Aki left…

  12. Oh my, here we go with the useless commotion again. *rolls eyes*

    Anyway, the tracklisting for the best-of album is kinda predictable… It was pure pi-Geneon works which are mostly underrated, sad to say. D: Even if I had the money to afford this, still I won’t buy it. They could’ve include a remix of one of the songs in the tracklist for buyers to be enticed to purchase the album.

    Looks like I’ll be expecting more on MGC2 when the tracklisting’s like this. :/

  13. Eh, there’s no reason to be excited. It’s clearly aimed at new fans who don’t want to hunt down the older singles. The DVD isn’t even the full show, I think it’s just 5 songs from the concert.

  14. @kanna: err… thanks.

    @hikaruhoshi: I don’t have any comment for the DVD content since it’s pretty much normal of an album to not have full concert bonus.

    The tracklist, however, is a big disappointment. I’m agree with Army about how Geneon should have released MELL’s new album (or Eiko) instead of releasing KOTOKO’s best album.

    @maiku: I respect KOTOKO since KOTOKO was the one who brought me to know I’ve (MELL was my 1st I’ve DIVA but she didn’t make me interested in I’ve).

  15. Just wanna say something about maiku’s take on KOTOKO’s affiliations: Oh gawd no, not Avex. They’ll turn her into a whore.

    • sorry azu, but that is a stupid comment.

    • Azu, I 100% agree with you, I just didn’t want to word it that way.

  16. Some of you really think Avex can do better than Geneon? I don’t.
    Proof:
    Beni Arashiro (Avex) -> BENI (Universal)

    But who knows.
    One thing I agree, Geneon fails so hard with I’ve. I thought the label change was for the better but no, Geneon Universal is still same old Geneon D:

    • On topic, I’m also a KOTOKO fan, and this tracklisting called KOTOKO Best Album feels like a slap in the face.

    • I’ve been hoping Geneon would dump I’ve for a couple of years now. Their marketing is underwhelming, their artist placement is poor (“Proof?” Glad they made up for THAT mistake), and there is no service to the fans outside the official fan clubs which I doubt Geneon has a part in anyway. I thought that the Departed to the Future box set, though exceedingly expensive for what it was, even by Japan’s high standards, was a decent tribute for fans to enjoy. The rest has been rubbish, and it isn’t getting better.
      I’m not saying this “best-of” album contributes either way, I’m saying “best-of” is definitely in quotation marks because if Geneon knew what “best-of” really meant, they’d call it like it is and name this “KOTOKO Anime Singles Collection.” I don’t know the fan reaction to master groove circle among Japanese fans, but I would think that announcing mgc 2 with more of the same crap is a bigger insult than this transparent cash grab.

      Would I’ve be better with Avex? Probably, since I think that the I’ve girls would get more exposure (no pun intended at all) to careers beyond anime music, which as hard as KOTOKO has tried, she hasn’t been able to break into. None of them would turn into Idols, and if they ever wanted to, they would have done so already, so I’m not worried about that.

      • Agree. Everytime there’s a new release I hope it’s the last one under the current contract. Sure, the breakthrough into mainstream market last time was thanks to Geneon, but they need another one now.

  17. Same comment than on the forum : DO NOT WANT.
    Geneon is all about business, not about what fans want.

    @Maiku87 : nothing against you, but since when are YT commenters people to trust ?
    Also… “About the songs forgoted, there should be 5 CD’s like that one to fill just the best of them…”

    Best ANIME material, not her whole discography… not enough to fill 5 cd, let’s face it.

  18. I don’t like this tracklist, What about Shooting star and second flight?. A lot of songs are missing in this best album!!.
    On the other hand, I agree with everyone when you say that a change of company, wold not make KOTOKO more succesful, but in fact, I think she deserves to be more famous.

    Another point is that in my opinion, this year KOTOKO has overpublished. She has relased so far, three singles and a new album. I think is not a good Idea to relase another CD, is counterproductive for her career. Instead of that, I think like you that Geneon ent. should have been more concentred in MELL, or Eiko Shimamiya.

    • Some research should be done! It’s a copyright issue. The Onegai songs were released by Lantis which is owned by Bandai. That’s why those songs are missing.

      • In the US market, “Stokesia” (the Onegai Teacher vocal album) was released by Geneon: if their horribly-managed US branch could wrangle the rights, I highly doubt it would be a problem for their Japanese counterparts.

  19. could someone put it on youtube Shimamiya Eiko songs he sang at Budokan 2009! I would like to see please.

  20. Where is AGONY? ToT

    • i heard agony may have been a B-side (correct me if incorrect), which if i’m correct, many people don’t count B-sides as proper songs, but fun little bonuses. its very popluar though.

      • Agony was indeed a B-side, but I don’t count b-sides as bonuses. Actually, on many singles, I liked B-sides more than A-sides :p

      • @:Eimi: :D hallo. I count them as proper songs but bonuses they are *priviledged face* xP

        @>Kane: BUCCANEER pwns its A-Side :0 *killed*


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